At HLTH 2025, Ian Khan sits down with Dr. Lee Fleisher, founder of Rubrum Advising and former Chief Medical Officer of CMS, to discuss policy, quality, and safety. Drawing on his experience setting clinical standards at CMS, Fleisher advises organizations on navigating quality, safety, and a shifting regulatory landscape. He shares how policy and payment shape which innovations actually reach patients. The conversation explores how regulation and quality standards influence the future of care.